When heroes lie基本信息

When heroes lie

时长:119 min

制片国家:芬兰

年代:2012

导演: Arto Halonen

(导演简介:Arto Halonen has directed numerous award-winning films, including  the fiction feature film Princess and the documentary films Shadow of the Holy Book,  Pavlov’s dogs, Karmapa – Two Ways of Divinity and the  Tank Man. In 2005, Halonen was awarded the Finland Prize, the highest annual prize in the arts given by the Ministry of Culture and the Finnish State.

Among other important prizes, he has received the Humanitarian Award of the European Union in 1998, and, in 2008, the Thessaloniki   Documentary Festival honoured him as one of the most important   documentary filmmakers of his generation. In year 2010 Halonen was  awarded by the city of Helsinki Culture prize for his remarkable artistic  career.

Halonen is also the founder and the first festival director of DocPoint –  the Helsinki Documentary Film Festival – and is a member of the European Film Academy.

摘自制片公司网站http://www.artfilmsproduction.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30&Itemid=44&lang=en

看介绍在芬兰应该挺有地位的,但只有粗体那部片子豆瓣上稍微有几个人看过

不过这个电影公司收集的一篇媒体报道http://www.artfilmsproduction.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=84%3Acaravanofnordic&catid=16%3Akirjoituksiaeng&Itemid=50&lang=en

里面有一段信息

In the late 1980’s Arto trained students in filmmaking and acted as the Regional Cinema Artist in the province of Northern Karelia. During that time, he trained teachers, screenwriters, and filmmakers using educational films and extensive production programs. The art community there handed him an award for distinguishing himself in film production with international reach. It’s an award many Nordic filmmakers could very well share. In 2000, Arto and some of the foremost documentary film-makers in Finland: Georg Grontenfelt, Visa Koiso-Kanttila, Anu Kuivalainen, John Webster, Timo Korhonen and Kiti Luostarinen established Elephant Films, Ltd. a Finnish Directors’ Group. Although it consists of seven separate prodco’s it is united by a primary aim to strengthen content by creating a synergetic environment where better docs can be made. The collective company manages to share costs and experience without jeopardizing the artistic independence of each filmmaker. As a director-driven company, it also, in a way, surpasses the need for productorial middlemen, or some would say meddle-men. This is an idea whose time could come to these shores, too.

他培训了很多电影工作者。而且2000年他的几个芬兰优秀的纪录片导演成立了一个我不知道具体叫什么,但现在这个概念应该已经非常流行了:几个人彼此合作分享,但又各自保持独立性。

制片公司: Art Films Production(芬兰)http://www.artfilmsproduction.com/

这个公司有一个比较有意思的地方,它的网站上就很明确地写了一部分films produced by Arts Films,一部分 produced by Arto Halonen

Art Films Production AFP Ltd develops and produces creative, quality films. The company’s main focus is on fiction films and documentaries, but animation projects have also been developed and realised over the years. Art Films began its operations in 1987. 很老牌的公司了

联合制片:这个联合制片信息没出现在IDFA或影片官网上,但出现在一篇文章里http://bzfilm.com/articles-notes/first-ever-finnishcroatian-sports-doping-film-presented-to-co-financiers-in-cannes/ 说和克罗地亚的MP Film Production公司联合制片,能搜到一些新闻看到克罗地亚确实有这个制片公司,但没搜到它的官网

影片官网:http://www.whenheroeslie.com/

facebook界面地址 https://www.facebook.com/whenheroeslie

这个facebook挺猛的,一直在收集各项体育运动的兴奋剂消息,也不翻旧账,都是新消息,不过更猛的是它也收集了一些反对这部影片的新闻

内容简介:

2001年北欧项目世界锦标赛时整队芬兰滑雪运动员被查出服用兴奋剂,从而揭露出芬兰滑雪运动上长期有系统的兴奋剂使用史。本片采访了教练,运动员,相关专家,揭示了这项运动的黑暗面。其实它折射出了整个体育界,甚至整个社会。观众对英雄的需求蒙蔽了他们的理性。社会为了满足这种需求给了这种谎言和伪善存在的空间,为了获胜可以不允许胜利超越道德,允许双重标准的存在。

When an entire group of Finnish skiers tested positive for doping in the Lahti World Championships of 2001, it revealed the systematic and long-term history of the use of illegal performance-enhancing drugs in the sport.

When Heroes Lie analyzes the history of doping from the 1970s to the present day, using archive footage and interviews with skiers, coaches and experts. Director Arto Halonen conducted extensive research into the global doping culture in top-class athletics. He explores how our society, where success systematically prevails over morals, lays the foundation for a hypocritical attitude in the pursuit of triumph. The people want champions and heroism, but close their eyes to the world behind the international stage – that shadowy world that sets the conditions for hero status. But when there’s official confirmation of something that anybody with any common sense could have known all along, the moral outrage is immense. This touches on a wider problem in our society: cheating is the rule rather than the exception when it comes to achieving our sacred goals. But nobody seems to mind, as long as it doesn’t come to light.

以上来源 IDFA http://www.idfa.nl/industry/tags/project.aspx?id=dfae47ce-0b1e-4eda-9c55-5fb2413b2420

和影片官网 http://www.whenheroeslie.com/synopsis

采访:针对这部影片没有找到导演的英文采访

但这篇文章中引用了这样一段比较重要的导演的话http://www.cineuropa.org/nw.aspx?t=newsdetail&l=en&did=216183

We have been very meticulous in our research, so if anyone will sue us, we can prove every detail of the rotten, doping-ridden history of skiing we disclose. However, we also came upon some second-hand reports, which were simply incredible, and unusable in a documentary on a sensitive subject.

还有一个之前提到的网站收集的导演采访,虽然和本片无关,但后面提到了很多芬兰电影的现状和他自己公司的事

http://www.artfilmsproduction.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=84%3Acaravanofnordic&catid=16%3Akirjoituksiaeng&Itemid=50&lang=en

还有一个以前的采访,讲自己对纪录片的态度 http://www.filmfestivals.com/blog/thessaloniki/arto_halonen_press_conference_in_the_10th_thessaloniki_documentary_festival

一句引用http://bzfilm.com/articles-notes/first-ever-finnishcroatian-sports-doping-film-presented-to-co-financiers-in-cannes/

”With fiction, I can play with the characters and bring in empathy and humour. I want to help people think of doping in a different way, from the angle of people outside the system”

影评:

官网上收集了都是片段是影评,但可能因为原文都是北欧文的缘故,也没给链接(facebook上有)

现在唯一找到的是一个a Nordic sport science web journal上的影评 http://idrottsforum.org/forumbloggen/a-faulty-film-coming-to-a-screen-near-you/

但是这篇文章觉得这部电影有缺陷,导演有预设立场

社会新闻:

因为兴奋剂确实会引起很大的社会关注,所以有很多跟兴奋剂相关的新闻

比如之前提到的导演用了很多匿名信息,又坚持不透露来源,而且有些披露的目前还没有证据,所以挪威方面反应很激烈http://www.newsinenglish.no/2012/11/22/skiers-shocked-over-doping-claims/

不过影片也带来了一些积极影响。导演写了公开信建议改变现有的芬兰兴奋剂监控系统,芬兰Minister of Social Affairs and Health做出回应:I’ve asked to organize a discussion between the Finnish Medicines Agency and the police in order to develop their co-operation. The discussion will be to review the existing mechanisms for cooperation and possible needs for improvement when cooperating with drug control detected in the suspected criminal conduct and seeking a reference to any of the cases in which illegal activity is potentially criminally out of date.

http://www.whenheroeslie.com/news/55

优酷预告片地址 http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTg5NjI2MzI4.html

 

 

 

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